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Three Recent Teen Suicides in Palo Alto, California

There were three completed teen suicides in four months (May, June, and August 2009), plus one suicide attempt (June 2009) that was thwarted, all by Gunn High School students in Palo Alto, California.

Completed suicides: http://MinyangMaoMD.com/u/ncnv3h

Thwarted attempted suicide: http://MinyangMaoMD.com/u/llqkqhv6

Gunn High School has a child psychiatrist actively addressing the issue –  from http://MinyangMaoMD.com/u/kycbvyez:

“I’m certain it’s not a coincidence,” said Dr. Shashank Joshi, an assistant professor and child psychiatrist at Stanford’s Lucile Packard Children’s Hospital who is helping educators deal with the deaths. “There’s a pattern here, and it’s following what the signs tell us about suicides that are imitated.”

Joshi said more needed to be done to encourage youths with mental health issues to seek help, and to prompt parents, teachers and others to reach out to them.

At the same time, Joshi said, deaths by suicide can be contagious if sensationalized. He asked reporters not to dwell on details of Friday’s tragedy and for television stations to avoid filming live reports from the rail crossing.”

This interview highlights the two extremes of dealing with teen suicide:

1) Totally ignoring the issue and brushing it under the table, hoping against hope that the surviving teens don’t notice and don’t think about it.

Underlying this course of action lurks the age-old argument that talking about suicide and asking whether someone is suicidal actually may prompt them to commit suicide.  This myth has been dis-proven again and again by studies looking into the issue.  Asking someone whether they are suicidal does NOT cause them to either become suicidal or make it more likely that they will commit suicide.  Instead, it shows them that you understand that suicide is a very common thing for people to think about, that you take their suffering seriously, and that you care about them enough to ask about their personal safety.  This is the operating principle under which all psychiatrists operate.

2) Sensationalizing the suicides and spurring on a string of copy-cat suicides not only at the high school but in the entire region.

Tragedy sells newspapers (and television new shows).  Many think that the media sensationalizing the Columbine shootings spurred copy-cat shootings in schools across the world.  The same argument can be made for suicides – that sensationalizing suicides can spur copy-cat suicides from people seeking the attention after death that they did not receive in life.

The answer to this tricky situation lies in balancing these two competing interests – raising awareness and discussion of suicide, while at the same time not sensationalizing it and encouraging further suicides.  A very tough balancing act – I do not envy Dr. Joshi and Superintendent Skelly’s jobs.

A promising project by child psychiatrist Dan Tzuang, M.D., a APA/SAMHSA Minority Fellow (http://MinyangMaoMD.com/u/10rr65t), seeks to address some of the school stresses that can lead to depression and suicide. Contact me if you would like more information on how to get involved with this project.

ADDENDUM 10/22/2009:

Fourth teen suicide in six months at Gunn High.  New blog post here: http://MinyangMaoMD.com/teen-suicide-2

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SSRIs in pregnancy – increased risk of heart defects in babies

BobLinFlowerA report in British Medical Journal (via medpagetoday.com) caught my eye today.  It is a report on a Denmark cohort study (no experiments or interventions, just retrospectively reviewing the charts of a group of people and noting their characteristics) of “nearly half a million” Danish children showed that babies whose mothers received an SSRI while pregnant compared to those who did not receive SSRIs had a 1.99 times risk of septal heart defects (1.99 odds ratio, 95% CI 1.13 to 3.53).   For women taking multiple SSRIs during pregnancy, babies were at 4.70 times risk (95% CI 1.74 to 12.7).

Although the odds ratio would seem very alarming, the actual rate of babies getting septal heart defects remains low:  9 out of 1000 children born to mothers on one SSRI, or 21 children out of 1000 children born to mothers on multiple SSRIs would be expected to have heart defects.  In comparison, 4.5 out of 1000 children NOT on SSRIs get septal heart defects.

The take home for this study is this: the recent ACOG/APA recommendations on SSRIs in pregnancy remain applicable.  See more details on the recommendations on my previous blog post.  The addition to this is that generally women should NOT be on multiple SSRIs during pregnancy as that contributes a more significant risk as noted in the Denmark study.  However, women with severe depression stable on SSRIs should generally stay on their SSRIs during pregnancy as the overall risk of septal heart defect remains low on one SSRI (9 out of 1000 children on SSRI, versus 4.5 out of 1000 without SSRI).   In those with severe depression who are stable on SSRIs, the risk of relapse of depression with the discontinuation of SSRI, and the subsequent effect on the mother and child (mothers may eat poorly, miss prenatal visits, not follow medical instructions, use substances like tobacco, alcohol, recreational drugs to cope with depression, have difficulty meeting needs of child once she is born, and many more – see more details at womenshealth.gov) is significant and generally outweighs the risk of septal heart defect.  Of note, each individual case needs to be assessed by a psychiatrist and OB/Gyne to weigh the risks in the individual case.

Article written 9/29/09 by Minyang Mao, M.D.

Disclaimer: This article is intended as an educational resource only, and is not intended to be a replacement for treatment. For evaluation and treatment, please contact a qualified mental health professional.

Content © 2009 Minyang Mao, M.D.  Image © 2009 Bob Lin.  All rights reserved.

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